Wednesday, February 10, 2016

I Don't Know Who I Will Vote For In The Primary

There. Had to get that out into the open. Many of you readers know that I'm the Mayor of Goddamn Liberaltown. Bernie Sanders reflects my philosophy best, because he's a Socialist. If you're not ready to criticize the American capitalist system and our imperialist foreign policy on the fundamentals, you are not paying attention.

Here's the thing: Electability is my main issue. We are facing off against the forces of fucking Mordor here, with Donald Trump playing the role of the Racist Balrog and Ted Cruz starring as the wet fart of Sauron.

Is Hillary Clinton a corporatist warmonger? Of course she is. Jesus. But she's not as bad as the other side. Period. She's a real Democrat, and there are a pile of issues on which I agree, or almost agree, with her. I would literally vote for the shaved left nut of Lucifer himself, running with the taint of Judas Iscariot, if they were on the Democratic ticket. Especially now that the GOP has embraced open racism, open bigotry against Muslims, and a brutal approach to foreign policy that should sicken you. I've spent years criticizing these guys, but they have gotten worse recently. They want to take America to a dark place, a place even I have a hard time describing adequately.

Here's the other thing: I don't know that Hillary wins on electability. I really don't. She's the pro in this, but how much enthusiasm can she generate on our side? And yeah, they're going to demonize Bernie, but they've been demonizing Hillary since 1992. The establishment GOP demonizes all Democrats as too liberal, and then the movement conservatives demonize the establishment GOP as too liberal, and then the Trump supporters demonize the movement conservatives as too liberal, but then the establishment GOP points out that the Trump supporters themselves are actually too liberal. It is a snake eating its own ass, folks.

I'm going to continue pondering on this. In the meantime, here are my thoughts, conclusions, and exhortations:

1. Please write in and tell me what you think about the electability issue.
2. Please, please, please support your fellow Democrats - even the ones with whom you disagree. The other side wants a registry of Muslim Americans, a rollback of LGBT rights, they will ignore the ongoing destruction of African American lives, they want to hunt immigrants like animals, and they want to bomb the Middle East until it glows. They've said this. Think about how you'd feel if your life, or your family's lives, were on the line, and some people didn't want to help because their second choice in the election wasn't good enough.

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10 comments:

  1. I'm in the same place mentally. I'm leaning towards Hillary because I'd love to see our first female president. I do think she leans more conservative than I like, but then I'm pretty liberal. I love much of what Bernie has to say, but my gut tells me that Hillary is more electable than Bernie in the general. I think a lot of moderate (and former) Republicans will not vote for whichever lunatic the GOP puts forward (in my view, they're all lunatics to varying degrees). I think Hillary would be fairly palatable to these types (my husband is one--former Republican, now Independent). Bernie might be able to drum up the youth vote, but Hillary would also generate a lot of excitement by virtue of being the first woman nominee. Plus, I think the GOP attacking her for being a woman (I don't believe they'll be able to help themselves--they're too far gone) will really piss a lot of people off, thus motivating them to vote.

    So, the end result of all that rambling is I'm voting for Hillary, and let the chips fall where they may. It probably goes without saying, but I would definitely vote for Bernie if he is the nominee.

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  2. I'm pondering this too. I'm almost glad I have a late primary. I'd like to see Bernie's young and independent support exert a huge influence on Hillary's positions. I'm not certain about the electability issue. Neither is extremely likable, but both are infinitely more appealing to rational voters than any of their possible opponents. I think Hilary supporters would be more likely to swing to Bernie than the other way. I wonder which would be able to accomplish more if elected.

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  3. I've written more or less this same article about 20 times over the last couple of weeks. But last night, after Bernie shocked me (I figured 15 points was the outside), I decided to look ahead. I wrote about it on my blog, but it doesn't post until 11:05 am PT. But the bottom line is this: the race really isn't competitive. Clinton is ahead everywhere else. She's over 40 point ahead in Georgia and almost as far ahead in Texas. Sanders maybe has a shot in Nevada, because the polls are old and it is a caucus. But I just don't see him winning the nomination.

    I know he will get a bump. But his win will also freak out a lot of Democrats on the fence. So I don't see the race changing that much. I could be wrong, of course. But I doubt it. And it's made me pretty angry toward the Clinton campaign, which has done so much whining recently -- and offended a lot of people on the left of the party. I just don't see the need for all the hysterics like Bill's "crazy husband" act.

    So I remain, as ever a strong Sanders supporter, but now I don't have to worry about it. Plus, of course, I live in California, and our primary is three weeks after the general election.

    Aside: have you heard that Sanders is the only major candidate to take a stand on the Superhero Registration Act? This is great, even if I hate Marvel.

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  4. Also, climate change. What limited regulations Obama has managed will be rolled back the second a Republican takes the oath. Just today, the Supreme Court issued some sort of hold on the existing regulations. I'm a one-issue voter on climate change, though since I think Clinton and Sanders are roughly equal on that, I look at other things to tie-break.

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  5. I kind of think democracy only works if you go with what you believe, rather than tactics/going against what you fear.

    But I get the predicament - here in the UK we went with our own Sanders (Corbyn) - he probably won't get elected, but he's already done pretty well at putting forward a popular alternative narrative that would have been impossible a year ago.

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  6. I'm a Green Party member who thinks we should have single-payer healthcare and a guaranteed minimum income, but I also think that Sanders would lose the general election. I voted for Clinton over Obama in the 2008 primary mostly because she voted against the FISA bill. This time I will be voting for her based on her experience, her focus on women's rights, and yeah, electability.

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  7. The thing about electability is that it seems like all the "Sanders isn't electable" arguments I've seen seem to all boil down to "nobody's going to vote for Sanders, so don't vote for Sanders" tautology (self-fulfilling prophecy?). And admittedly I haven't seen the latest polls, but I recall that some recent ones did show that Sanders was as, or more, electable than Clinton when compared to Trump (who, let's be honest, is most likely going to get the Republican nom).

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  8. Go to isidewith.com and take the test. In your primary, support whoever you are most closely aligned with. When we get to the actual presidential election, vote for whoever took your party's primary. It's not the option I love, but for me, it's the logical option.

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    1. Thanks for the link. As expected I aligned with Bernie.

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  9. Don't get too worked up about the Sanders / Clinton question. fivethirtyeight(dot)com has been really accurate in the last few national elections, and according to them, Sanders doesn't stand a chance winning the nomination. So, the question is purely academic. However, I like the fact that for the first time in the last few decades, a Democrat is actually pulling the party to the left rather than to the right, and there doesn't seem to a great fear of general election repercussions. I like Sanders, and will vote for him in my primary even though Clinton will win. I will gladly vote for Clinton in the general, and I hope the fervor that Sanders has generated will not dissipate as quickly as it did with Obama.

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